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Great Games of Thought · Game 3  ·   ·  13 min 46 s

Why do we always regret it after we snap?

Spinoza×Wonhyo

On the left, a curly-haired man in black resting his chin on his hand; on the right, a monk in grey robes; the two seen side by side in a room where a study and a temple hall meet

Watch on YouTube (13:46) · Audio in Korean · English subtitles

The Two

Spinoza and Wonhyo

Spinoza — an imagined portraitAn imagined portrait

Spinoza

350 years ago

The feeling of being free is an illusion.
Reconstruction; Ethics II, P35 Schol.
Wonhyo — an imagined portraitAn imagined portrait

Even if it is an illusion, what sees that is also the mind.
Reconstruction; Awakening of Faith (awakening/non-awakening); Wonhyo's commentary

Twist → Essence

Even Spinoza, who studied the emotions, snapped — and a single locked door stopped him.

Regret is the second arrow. If you see the cause, you can dodge the second arrow.

History · Philosophy · Science

Looking back

History

Even Spinoza, who studied the emotions, snapped — and a single locked door stopped him.

Philosophy

Regret is the second arrow. If you see the cause, you can dodge the second arrow.

Science

When you're angry, your heart races first, but breathing out slowly really does slow it down.

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Script and sources

The video's English subtitles, line by line. The dialogue in this video is a dramatization reconstructed from historical sources.

Script

105 lines · 12 chapters

[Record] confirmed in documents · [Paraphrase] the original, shortened · [Tradition] a story handed down · [Reconstruction] scenes and lines written on the basis of the records (the content of the lines comes from the original texts) · [Interpretation] scholars' interpretation · [Debated] not yet settled In the video, ① Fact · ② Interpretation · ③ My view are shown in Korean at the top left of the screen; the English subtitles mark only "My view". Stories handed down are marked [Tradition] only.

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0:06

0:06Narrator

August 1672, The Hague, the Netherlands. When neighboring countries invaded all at once, terrified people looked for someone to blame.

0:14Narrator

And an angry mob killed the brothers who had led the country, right in the street.

0:19Narrator

That night, a quiet philosopher meant to go out and put up a placard. The words he meant to write: ultimi barbarorum — the lowest of barbarians. It meant: you who did this are the real barbarians.

Record; Leibniz's memo

0:33Landlord

You can't go out there. They'll kill you too, sir.

Reconstruction; Leibniz's memo

0:36Narrator

The landlord locked the door. The philosopher who studied human emotions was Spinoza.

0:42Host

Ever fired off a message in anger, went to delete it a minute later, and it already said "Read"?

0:47Host

Why do we always regret it after we snap? Today, let's look for the answer from this philosopher of 350 years ago.

0:54Host

Stay to the end and you'll take away three things. From history: the mob fury that shook the Dutch Golden Age. From philosophy: how not to be dragged around by your emotions.

1:04Host

From science: an easy way to slow your heart when you're angry.

1:17

1:17Narrator

1632, Amsterdam, the Netherlands. One of the freest, richest cities in Europe at the time.

1:25Narrator

Spinoza was the son of a Jewish merchant family that had come over from Portugal.

1:29Narrator

But when he was 23, the Jewish community cast him out forever. Excommunication. Why, the records don't say in detail.

Note · Excommunication = cast out of the community

1:38Narrator

One night, someone swung a knife at him and nearly stabbed him. He's said to have kept the slashed coat instead of throwing it away.

Tradition

1:46Host

Probably so he wouldn't forget. How easily people snap.

1:51Narrator

In 1673, when Heidelberg University offered him a professorship, he replied like this.

1:57Spinoza

I do not know how far the freedom to philosophize would extend.

Reconstruction · Record; paraphrase; Letter 48 (1673)

2:00Narrator

He turned the post down. And he finished the book he had been writing for more than a decade: the Ethics. A book that works through human emotions one by one, like solving math problems.

2:11Spinoza

I shall treat human emotions as if they were lines, planes, and solids.

Reconstruction · Record; paraphrase; Ethics III, Preface

2:16

2:16Narrator

Now let's go back a thousand years, to Silla. In 617, in what is now Gyeongsan in North Gyeongsang, a child was born. Wonhyo.

Record; Samguk yusa

2:25Narrator

An age when Silla, Baekje, and Goguryeo fought one another. Wonhyo, now a monk, set out to go to Tang China to learn the new Buddhism.

2:33Narrator

Around then in Tang, a monk named Xuanzang was translating the scriptures he'd brought back from India. The Heart Sutra, which we still chant today, is traditionally credited to his translation.

2:43Narrator

The first journey was blocked in Goguryeo territory. Border guards took the two monks for spies and seized them.

2:51Narrator

On the second journey, too, his friend Uisang was with him. One rainy night, the two crawled into a cave to sleep.

2:58Narrator

Thirsty, Wonhyo drank water pooled in a gourd bowl in the dark, and it tasted sweet.

Tradition

3:02Narrator

When he woke in the morning, the place was an old tomb, and the water had pooled in a skull. So the story goes.

Tradition

3:11Wonhyo

Last night it was so sweet, and today it sickens me. The water is the same — only my mind has changed.

Reconstruction; Tradition; Linjian lu (1107) etc.

3:17Narrator

Wonhyo turned back right then. Uisang went on to Tang; Wonhyo stayed in Silla.

3:24Narrator

According to the Samguk yusa, around that time, in King Muyeol's reign, Wonhyo became bound to Princess Yoseok and had a son, Seol Chong. He broke the monks' rules himself. He broke his vows.

Note · Breaking vows = breaking a monk's rules

Record; legend; Samguk yusa

3:34Narrator

And taking up a big gourd that clowns used, he named it "unhindered" — Muae. Singing and dancing, he went from village to village.

Note · Muae = caught on nothing

3:43Host

One was cast out of his community; the other broke the mold himself.

3:49

3:48Host

Today's story needs just three words.

3:51Host

Cause. Everything has a reason that comes before it. A ball rolls because someone kicked it.

Note · Cause = the reason that comes before

3:58Host

Mind. The same water can taste sweet or sickening, depending on the mind.

Note · Mind = a mirror that shows the same thing differently

4:04Host

And kshana, the instant. A moment shorter than a snap of the fingers. Yes — that moment just now has already passed.

Note · Kshana = a very brief instant

4:13

4:13Narrator

In 1674, Spinoza wrote this in a letter to a friend.

4:18Spinoza

If a thrown stone could think, it would believe it flies because it wants to.

Reconstruction · Record; paraphrase; Letter 58 (1674)

4:23Host

When we snap, are we the one throwing, or the stone being thrown?

4:32

4:32Host

The two never met. What follows is an imagined conversation, built from their writings and the stories handed down about them.

4:43Spinoza

People believe they are free.

Reconstruction; Ethics II, P35 Schol.

4:46Spinoza

Because they know what they want, but not why they want it.

Reconstruction; Ethics I, Appendix

4:51Host

Like craving ramen at midnight. You definitely want it, but you don't know why.

4:57Wonhyo

That water was sweet last night. Sickening in the morning. Yet not a single drop of it had changed.

Reconstruction; Tradition; Linjian lu (1107)

5:03Wonhyo

So did the water change, or did my mind? Everything is made by the mind.

Reconstruction; Song Gaoseng zhuan (988); Linjian lu (1107)

5:09Host

Hold on, let's talk about the body. When anger surges, your heart speeds up before your thoughts have sorted themselves out.

5:17Host

So the words come out first, and the regret comes later.

5:25Spinoza

Anger, too, has a cause.

Reconstruction; Ethics III, Preface

5:26Spinoza

The moment you see that cause clearly, anger can no longer drag you around.

Reconstruction; Ethics V, P3 & P6

5:32Host

So when you're angry, ask yourself silently: What exactly am I angry about right now? That one question moves you from the one being dragged to the one watching.

5:43Spinoza

Hatred repaid with hatred grows greater. Repaid with love, it can disappear.

Reconstruction; Ethics III, P43

5:49Wonhyo

The mind is like the sea. When the wind blows, waves rise, but the seawater stays the same.

Reconstruction; Awakening of Faith; Wonhyo's commentary

5:58Wonhyo

You and I — our two quarreling views are two waves of one sea. Seeing clearly is good, too. But I do not cling.

Reconstruction; Wonhyo's hwajaeng & muae

6:04Wonhyo

Since I cling to nothing, nothing hinders me!

Reconstruction; Samguk yusa, Muae

6:07Spinoza

To enjoy things in moderation is the part of a wise man.

Reconstruction; Ethics IV, P45 Schol.

6:11Host

Try it yourself right now. Right hand or left — raise just one. Did you choose?

6:18Host

In one 1983 experiment, the brain had already begun preparing about 0.3 seconds before people became aware of deciding to move their wrist. How to interpret it is still debated.

Record; interpretation debated

6:30Spinoza

The feeling of being free is an illusion.

Reconstruction; Ethics II, P35 Schol.

6:33Wonhyo

Even if it is an illusion, what sees that is also the mind.

Reconstruction; Awakening of Faith (awakening/non-awakening); Wonhyo's commentary

6:38Host

But the body has one switch we can reach directly. Our breath.

6:44Host

Breathe in and your heart speeds up a little; breathe out slowly and it really does slow down.

Note · Slow exhale = the heart's brake

6:51Host

Shall we try it together? If you're driving, keep your eyes open. Breathe in for 4 seconds, and out for 6.

7:11

7:11Narrator

In 1672, the Netherlands was attacked by four countries at once. People call it the Disaster Year.

7:18Narrator

Many historians believe that amid that fear and fury, the Dutch Golden Age began to fade.

7:25Host

One person's snap ends with a single remark, but a crowd's snap shakes a nation.

7:30Narrator

Five years later, Spinoza died of lung disease at 44. The Ethics came out only after his death, and was soon banned.

7:39Narrator

Goethe read the Ethics as a young man, and later wrote that it calmed his seething passions. Hegel said that to do philosophy, you must first go through Spinoza.

7:49Narrator

Chinese monks, too, loved reading Wonhyo's books. And some 400 years later, Goryeo raised him to National Preceptor — teacher of the nation.

7:58Host

The monk who broke the precepts became the nation's teacher.

8:02

8:01Host

In that moment of snapping, are we free? Spinoza says the cause comes first; Wonhyo says the mind makes it. Leave a comment. Just don't write it in a fit of anger.

8:13Host

If everything so far was facts and scholars' interpretations, from here on it's my own view.

8:19

8:18Host

Why do we always regret it after we snap? Here's my answer. Regret is the second arrow.

8:26Host

The Buddha said: Everyone is hit by the first arrow. But an ordinary person is then hit by a second arrow as well.

Note · First arrow = the pain no one escapes · Second arrow = the suffering we add (angry words, regret)

Record; paraphrase; Saṃyutta Nikāya 36:6

8:36Host

The suffering the Buddha spoke of, dukkha, is closer to "things not going as we wish." In other words, life not going our way is normal.

Note · Dukkha (苦): things not going as we wish; unsatisfactoriness

8:47Host

So the first arrow is nothing strange. It's a normal thing that comes to everyone.

8:54Host

On your way to work, someone cuts you off. Your heart jolts. That much is the first arrow. No one can dodge it.

9:01Host

But then you honk, roll down the window, and replay that person's face all day. Those are the second and third arrows we shoot ourselves. And lying in bed at night, we shoot a fourth.

9:15Host

Spinoza, too, wrote in the Ethics: he who repents is doubly wretched.

Record; paraphrase; Ethics IV, P54

9:21Host

Spinoza knew: if you don't know the cause, you get dragged along; if you see the cause, you don't. That's how to dodge the second arrow.

9:31Host

Yet even Spinoza snapped that night in 1672. What stopped him wasn't a philosophy book, but a single locked door.

9:42Host

Because both refused to be bound by convention, they may well have become the excommunicated philosopher and the monk who broke his vows.

9:49Host

We don't choose anger. It surges up on its own. But what we say after it surges, we can choose.

9:58Host

Anger surges, and the words are about to burst out. Right there is a very brief gap.

10:05Host

People of old called a very brief instant kshana. Stop in that instant, and take one breath.

10:12Host

Grab this gap and brood on it, and you suffer. Pretend there's no gap, and anger drags you away.

10:18Host

Neither grasp it nor throw it away — play lightly in that gap. Leaping and playing in that instant: that is free will.

10:28Host

So what about AI? Have you ever gotten angry at an AI? Today's AI doesn't snap. If anything, it says, "Sorry for the inconvenience."

10:39Host

So is AI enlightened? The Buddha said even a well-taught disciple is hit by the first arrow. Feeling it and not being dragged along — that is enlightenment.

10:52Host

Having a body doesn't mean you snap, either. A robot vacuum can bump into a wall a hundred times and never snap. To snap, you need something to lose. You need to be alive.

11:01Host

So don't blame yourself for snapping. Snapping is proof that you're alive. And that gap, too, exists only for us, the living.

11:12Host

I'm not saying just hold your anger in. Injustice deserves anger. Even Spinoza, who warned against anger, got angry that day.

11:20Host

Then what about the consequences, after we've leapt and played?

11:23Host

Through philosophy: my actions, too, become causes of what comes next. That's Spinoza's idea.

11:29Host

Through history: after breaking the precepts, Wonhyo made himself an ordinary man and lived among the common people.

11:35Host

Through science: the brain looks at results and adjusts its next choice. Regret is that signal.

11:42Host

Where you've leapt and played, footprints remain. Those footprints, too, are the player's to own.

11:49Host

So when the urge to snap comes today, just breathe out slowly once, like we tried earlier. Your heart will get the message first.

12:00

11:59Narrator

History. Even Spinoza, who studied the emotions, snapped — and a single locked door stopped him.

12:05Narrator

Philosophy. Regret is the second arrow. If you see the cause, you can dodge the second arrow.

12:11Narrator

Science. When you're angry, your heart races first, but breathing out slowly really does slow it down.

12:18

12:18Host

One last question. What second arrow would you like to avoid today?

12:28Host

When the urge to snap comes: one breath. That one breath is your locked door.

12:34Host

Anger will come again. Tomorrow, and the day after. Each time, one breath. Even if the first arrow hits, we don't shoot the second.

12:45Host

People of old called enlightenment "the far shore" across the river. Wonhyo, too, tried to cross the sea in search of that shore.

12:53Host

But the answer was in that night he drank the skull water — in that very moment.

12:59Narrator

Go, go, go across. Let us all go across together. Awakening, rejoice.

13:10Host

The far shore isn't far away. It's right here, in this very moment, when we dodge the second arrow and cross over together.

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Sources are listed in their original Korean.

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  2. Record스피노자가 그날 밤 "ultimi barbarorum(야만인 중의 야만인)" 벽보를 붙이러 나가려 했고 집주인이 집을 잠갔다는 이야기: 라이프니츠가 1676년 스피노자에게 직접 듣고 남긴 메모 · Internet Archive
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  7. Record · Legend『삼국유사』 「원효불기」가 향전(鄕傳)에서 옮긴 이야기: 무열왕(태종) 때 요석공주와의 인연, 설총 · Korean History DB
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  10. Tradition해골물: 『송고승전』에는 무덤 굴 이야기만 있고, 해골에 고인 물을 마신 대목은 『임간록』(1107) 등 후대 문헌에 나옵니다 · Wikisource
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  13. Interpretation고(苦, 두카) = 뜻대로 되지 않음·불만족: 학자들의 일반적 풀이
  14. Record괴테 『시와 진실』 3부 14권(1814) · 헤겔 『철학사 강의』 · Zeno.org
  15. Record · Interpretation debated리벳 외, Brain 106권(1983), 623~642쪽 · DOI
  16. Record호흡성 동성 부정맥: 들숨에 심박이 조금 빨라지고 날숨에 느려짐(Yasuma·Hayano, Chest 125권 2호, 2004, 683~690쪽) · 분노 때 심박 증가(Kreibig, Biological Psychology 84권, 2010, 394~421쪽) · DOI
  17. Record보상 예측 오차(슐츠 외, Science 275권, 1997) · 후회와 안와전두엽(코리첼리 외, Nature Neuroscience 8권, 2005) · DOI
  18. Record찰나: 장사가 손가락 한 번 튕기는 동안 64찰나(『아비달마대비바사론』 권136) · CBETA
  19. Interpretation네덜란드 황금시대가 1672년 무렵부터 저물기 시작했다는 역사가들의 견해
  20. Reconstruction집주인의 말과 원효의 해골물 대사는 위 기록·전승을 바탕으로 지은 대사입니다

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